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Peter T. Burke @peter-t-burke

26 U.S. Code § 1 – Tax imposed

Not everything is the US is backed directly by a specific public law. The above citation is United States Code which is how public law is carried into execution.

Don’t bet on the advice of people who are telling you that there is no law that requires Americans to pay taxes – they might be right but there are clearly laws that specify what the Federal government is going to do to you if you don’t.

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Policy MAKES me SIGH @policysigh

@watchdog I have to regrettably disagree with you. I wish we did not have to pay taxes but we do. The constitution grants the government the right to collect taxes:

The United States Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1, states, “The Congress shall have the Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and gen- eral Welfare of the United States.“

Here is a link to the IRS website with more support for the legality of paying taxes :(

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p2105.pdf

@peter-t-burke thoughts?

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Two Cents @twocents

@peter-t-burke @policysigh @watchdog after the last few days of doing my taxes, and ponying up my hard earned cash, I wish you were right. Although I agree with the posters. We have to pay taxes. But lets fight so we dont have to pay as much! Or move to states with no income tax.

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Peter T. Burke @peter-t-burke

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@twocents

OK you disagree with me. On what?

The fact that I said “Don’t bet on the advice of people who are telling you that there is no law that requires Americans to pay taxes – they might be right but there are clearly laws that specify what the Federal government is going to do to you if you don’t.”

Or on the citation I provided: “26 U.S. Code § 1 – Tax imposed” which is the place in the US Code of Federal Regulation where the tax is imposed?

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Julia Wotten @juliaw

@peter-t-Burke I think @twocents and @policysigh were agreeing with you, but they were disagreeing with the original poster of this thread @watchdog.

I believe we have to pay taxes. I think it’s pretty extreme to argue we don’t have to. I think it’s pretty easy to agree that we have certain things that should be paid for by the collective. Our defense? Our justice system? Roads? Education? We may disagree on some of the individual programs but I think we can agree that there are in fact things we need to be paid for by the public. Not everything can be a private company.

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Gary @grand-vizier

@peter-t-burke
@twocents
I think Two Cents was wishing she could disagree with @watchdog who was starting the discussion ,not you Peter.
At least thats how I read it.
You have your facts straight as usual.

September 15, 2014

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Peter T. Burke @peter-t-burke

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@juliaw

My apologies for the delay in responding – I just received notice of the response by Gary.

The best advice I can give is that you should remember that while tax evasion is illegal, tax avoidance is not illegal (although most of the net tax consumers wish it was).

Government exists to tax to provide a means for the people in government to thrive and prosper. Generally they are not smart enough to provide for themselves in the non-government world. The idea that government minions are going to create a tax structure that cannot be avoided in the majority is not realistic. If they were that smart they would be working for themselves and looking for ways to avoid taxes.

We pay taxes because of the cost of getting caught, and convicted, of not paying taxes. We had roads, and armies before there was an income tax in the US.

I see no benefit to paying into the collective.

I carry a gun and I am comfortable in providing for my own defense. I can hire a man with a shotgun to escort my family members if necessary for far less than the cost of self-serving crime managers – and my family members would actually be protected.

I am happy with dirt roads, and home defense.

If we minded our own business as a country we would have very little need for a world-wide standing military to serve as the world’s policemen.

The main beneficiaries of the taxes in the US are the people who make-up the US government.

September 15, 2014

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