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James L. Riggs @jlriggs57aol-com

@twocents

Two Cents, I am definitely ready for smaller government and Liberty.

I like Rand Paul, I like almost all of what he stands for, but what concerns me is how much he is willing to change from his original stance to win over liberal voters.

We’ve all seen it before, once the changes start pretty soon he’s not even the person we voted for. Maybe he’s talking out of the side of his mouth to get the necessary votes and then he will go back to his original ideals or maybe he will just keep getting more and more liberal and become “just another RINO”.

To pull us out of this semi-socialist disaster that obummer has put us in is going to take someone strong and unafraid to make the tough decisions that will be needed to get the job done.

If he were eligible, I would have more faith in Ted Cruz, but sadly he can’t run.

You question was, would I support him? Yes, before I would vote for another socialist liberal or for a full-blown socialist RINO like Mitt Romney, I would not only vote for him, I would encourage others to vote for him.

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Two Cents @twocents

@jlriggs57aol-com where do you think Rand Paul has changed his positions? I feel as though he is one of the most truly principled politicians out there. Examples?? If he has changed his positions I definitely want to know where because I havent seen anything like that.

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James L. Riggs @jlriggs57aol-com

@twocents

I think you misunderstood what I was saying.

You said, “He is not just pandering to his base, he is going to very liberal areas and pushing his message.”

My point was that you will never, ever get liberals to go along with a conservative point of view let alone a Tea Party point of view. So “IF” he is saying things that sway the liberals to vote for him he isn’t talking purely conservative Tea Party views. Again, I am not saying that he has changed his position, I just have a hard time believing that a conservative can get liberals to vote for him without saying what a liberal wants to hear.

I have never trusted politicians, even ones I liked, so please excuse my skepticism.

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Crystal Litz @crystallitz

May be, smaller government idea is good.

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Coffee Addict @coffeeaddict

I agree with @crystallitz that smaller government idea is good. Although I agree with @jlriggs57aol-com, we have to be careful that he does not go too far left on some policies. For example, foreign policy. Look what President Obama did, he pulled back our foreign policy in the wrong places. Now the world is going crazy.

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James L. Riggs @jlriggs57aol-com

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@coffeeaddict

Crystal, if you look at the freedoms U.S. citizens had before WWI you would find a whole different way of life. Those of us who were born after the war have never really known the kind of freedom that they had before the war. I can imagine it, but that’s about all. WWI was the turning point in the growth of the federal government, that’s where it really took off and another jump in size came after WWII, it’s been growing in leaps and bounds ever since.

Coffee, I like your comment, “Now the world is going crazy.” You could not be more right. The “Big Stick” is gone. The one single truth that kept most tyrants from invading other countries was the Big Stick that America wielded. Through all the things that obama has purposefully done that big stick is gone. No one is worried about America coming to the rescue of the weaker countries. We have become a farce, a joke, the laughing stock of the world. Instead of being the guardian, we have become the jester.

Let’s all pray that we can survive until 2016 and that 2016 truly is the end of the shame that we now bear.

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Michael @mdjudson

Mr. Riggs,
I think you might be mistaken when you say one can “…never, ever get liberals to go along with a conservative point of view let alone a Tea Party point of view.” I think what Rand Paul is doing is informing liberals of what he really stands for. When you think about occupy wall street, that was almost a libertarian push against crony corpratism, which many libertarians can agree with. I agree that Senator Paul will never convert a big government liberal to a small government liberal, but I think there is a very great chance to get young vulnerable liberals to rethink many of their positions. If he can do this he would have a great chance of winning a presidential election, but if conservatives do not unite and split the vote in the primary election we will have another Bush as our nomination. If Paul can somehow survive a primary while splitting the vote with Rick Perry, Ted Cruz, Ben Carson, and whatever other conservative puts his name in the hat, he will have a great chance in a presidential election

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Coffee Addict @coffeeaddict

@jlriggs57aol-com I have to agree with @mdjudson on this one. I’ve been speaking with a lot of liberals lately about Rand Paul. Whenever I meet a liberal I ask them what they think about Rand Paul, I would say that they are split 50-50. Liberals that are truly educated and don’t care about party politics, but instead actually care about the issues love Rand Paul. They think he is for limited government and limited spending, along with liberty and individual freedoms. They don’t support Obama as much anymore because he didn’t do what he said he was going to. I think Rand Paul could pull support from both parties, and actually unite this country. Although I do stand by my earlier comment that we have to be careful he doesn’t go too far left to appease anyone.

The one thing I will say about Rand Paul is he seems very principled. I think that what you see is what you get with this man.

@crystallitz @twocents

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James L. Riggs @jlriggs57aol-com

@twocents
@crystallitz
@coffeeaddict
@mdjudson

Coffee, this sounds to me like you are talking about ex-liberals. If they are agreeing, even in part, with truly conservative points of view and think that they might vote for a true conservative, then I have to doubt that they are true liberals. However, having said that maybe they are hearing good solid proof that what the democratic liberals are doing is not in the best interest of the country and they are re-evaluating where they stand on the liberal, conservative issues.

You must have some liberals that are willing to at least listen. All we have are diehards who shout you down if you say something that doesn’t agree with obumblers socialist agenda.

Here’s hoping they are starting to listen.

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Two Cents @twocents

@jlriggs57aol-com
@crystallitz
@coffeeaddict
@mdjudson

Looks like this discussion is more relevant than ever! Rand Paul is officially in,

What do you guys think now?

I like that he’s trying to reach out. Although his comments on vaccines through me for a loop. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/rand-paul-vaccines-114845.html

I think his foreign policy is much better than his dads, I dont think he is as extreme as his father. He’s not an isolationist.

Thoughts? Lets vet him properly!

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James L. Riggs @jlriggs57aol-com

@twocents
@crystallitz
@coffeeaddict
@mdjudson

Two Cents, I clicked on the video and it said it had been removed. However, I followed the link on the vaccine issue and I think I understand where he is coming from.

He said, “Paul responded that he has “heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines,” though he was sure to note that he wasn’t arguing vaccines are a “bad idea.”

What if they made these vaccines mandatory and a thousand of the kids wound up with profound mental disorders? The government would be blamed and open themselves up for multiple law suits from these devastated parents.

Personally, I like Rand and most of what he stands for. If he is eligible to run I would probably vote for Ted Cruz, but if not I would vote for Rand.

To me Ron Paul is a little off the wire.

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